Just moved, new, smaller room, speaker advice, and more

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  1. Mikael Soderholm

    Mikael Soderholm Active Member Donor

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    So we've just moved, and the new apartment is smaller, especially the room I will use for music and movies, so I have a space issue.
    I decided to sell my projector and screen, and get a big(ish) TV, like 65" (my screen was 77"), viewing distance is about 240 cm (not quite 8 feet).

    But I also realize my four floorstanding speakers need to go, as I need the space for shelves (I am a physical guy, I have loads of CDs, DVDs and Blu), so I went to my local home cinema specialist, and they recomended M&K M-7/MP-7 (I don't want ported small speakers since they will most likey be placed in/on the shelves.
    I didn't actually test drive them, but they looked nice, and the specs are good, but I'm curious if anyone here has any experience with M&K? I read some threads here about the company, but no real reviews.
    Or has any other recommendations for small(ish) non-ported speakers that will be used for music and movies about 50/50, and will be placed in/on media shelves?
    I have a REL sub to complement these small things for bass.

    So after having moved all of the stuff it turns out I will only keep the sub and the Oppo (and all of the media ;)), plus of course the turntable.
    Hopefuly I'll be able to sell the stuff and at least cover part of the cost.
     
  2. Barry_NJ

    Barry_NJ Well-Known Member

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    No personal experience, but I've heard good things about M&K over the years.
    Regardless of brand though, book-shelf placement does have problems with all those surfaces so close to the speaker on so many sides...
     
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    DYohn Bronze Member Donor Top Poster

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    I owned M&K some 25 or 30 years ago and thought them great for movies but not engaging for music. I know the current company is not the same although I’ve read the designs are. I recommend that if you have the chance to audition before you buy.
     
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    Chris Slade Well-Known Member Top Poster

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    Front ported B&W or KEF. I would think NHT also has something.
     
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    DYohn Bronze Member Donor Top Poster

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    NHT, are they still around? When they started up in the late 80's I toured their factory and met the founders, very thoughtful guys who were genuine music lovers as well as good designers. As I recall their systems sounded darn good. They were using proprietary custom-made drivers that they designed in all their small bookshelf systems...
     
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  6. Mikael Soderholm

    Mikael Soderholm Active Member Donor

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    Thanks for your input guys. Will bring some CDs I know well and test drive the M&Ks soon, my friendly store is within walking distance. Not worried about movie performance, but a bit uncertain about music, especially acoustic, classical or otherwise challenging sonically, as any speaker can do modern radio-compressed stuff, which I don't listen that much to ...
    Will also look at B&W (thought I did, but didn't find any un- or front-ported, but will check again) and KEF.

    To be continued ...
     
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    Jason Lorette Well-Known Member

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    Paradigm make a great small speaker.
     
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    Bose! Just kidding!!!:smile:
     
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  9. Mikael Soderholm

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    OK, checked them out today, with some classical music and some Bowie (Heathen, a pretty complex album mixwise).
    In a different, and bigger, room than mine, with another sub and another amp than mine, but still.
    I was impressed by their musical ability, they sounded really great, very detailed and clean, so I ordered two white (the shelves in the back of my room are white) and two black M7, and an MP-7 as center.
    Also a Panasonic OLED TV, the FX800 (not sure if it's sold in the US), 65".
    Now poorer, but happier, and no longer a projector and screen guy, nor a floorstander one.
    Think it will work better in my new, smaller room.
    Will let you know, and maybe post some pics later.
     
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    DYohn Bronze Member Donor Top Poster

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    Heathen is a brilliant test disc. Oh, and congrats. :)
     
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    Enjoy! Looking forward to updates!
     
  12. Mikael Soderholm

    Mikael Soderholm Active Member Donor

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    OK, it took a while, apparently the M&K speakers sell like hotcakes, so first I got the two white ones that will be my rears, then I got the MP7, center, then, I went home and prepared all the cables and connected the rears and center. Then, after about a week, the TV came, and so I picked it up, connected it and got used to it, and then today, another two weeks later, the last two black MP7s arrived, so I could finally connect it all, do the ARC setup and start using it.
    Only played a few CDs so far, which sound absolutely marvellous. Still having some issues with the TV and HDMI ARC (not the setup, but return audio from the TV HDMI input), so if I turn on the TV, the sound from my blu player dies. Probably some misconfiguration, but it means I haven't been able to check movie sound yet (as I also get no sound from the TV via ARC).
    Oh well, here are some pics of the room for you.
    The speakers fit quite nicely into the shelves, and the rooms also has place to display some nice movie related stuff.
     

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    Look nice Mikael, glad you're enjoying! Looking forward to more impressions once you get your HDMI issues sorted.
     
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    Carl V Bronze Member Donor Top Poster

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    Nice set up. Nice collection of film memorabilia. Enjoy your new digs and setup.
     
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    Mikael Soderholm Active Member Donor

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    Got it now, all these HDMI devices interfere with each other, so in order to get the sound from the blu working with the TV on, I had to toggle a HDMI setting in the TV (strangely enough), intuitively called 1 and 2 (no idea what it does), and in order to get HDMI ARC working from the TV back to my Anthem, I had to turn on something called CEC control in the Anthem. But once I did, I got glorious multichannel sound from all my digital sources (although I haven't check the HDMI connected laptop just yet). Tomorrow I'll check if the turntable works, and maybe set up the FM radio part of the Anthem.
    Anyway, really nice to be back with a functioning home cinema (of sorts, a TV is not really a cinema).
    I tell you I have a stack of CDs and blus to work my way through now, even if it's only been two months.
     
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    DYohn Bronze Member Donor Top Poster

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    How do the new M&Ks sound?
     
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    Great shots of a your new setup... And yes, looking forward to your perceptions on the M&K's.
    Smitty
     
  18. Mikael Soderholm

    Mikael Soderholm Active Member Donor

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    I like the sound of the M&Ks, clear and distinct. Amazing from such small speaker. It is probably a lot due the ARC calibration of the Anthem. My new room is much smaller than the old one, and combined with the M&K sound, my daughter (who has been to one) said in sounded like in a studio.
    Will check out a movie tonight, and see how that sounds.
     
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    So, tonight's show: Elton John - Million Dollar Piano, live at Ceasar's Palace, not exactly a movie, but still a good workout for both my new TV and the Anthem and speakers.
    Sounded absolutely brilliant, although the center was mixed a bit low, and with no vocals, strangely enough. From the sweet spot it still sounded great from the L and R, with good ambiance from the rears, despite them being a bit directional. I think putting them a bit higher up has helped.
    I need to get used to the fact this room is probably about a third of the area of the old room, with about a 2-3 ft lower ceiling, so much less volume leading to a different sound.
    I never tested them, but I think my old floorstanders might have sounded strange here, as they needed more volume to breathe (bass-reflexes), while the new unported speakers work better in a smaller volume.
    It will be interesting to note if the character changes as they are being played in.

    Elton put on a great show, btw. Cool to see he brought 2Cellos with him onstage, I have heard about them before, and also heard their stuff, they are magnificent.
    Check them out!
     
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    Mikael Soderholm Active Member Donor

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    vinyl.JPG Vinyl player up and running.
    Good to listen to some old stuff again, still not on CD (or streaming sites).
     

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